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outboardr



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:46 pm    Post subject: Fisher Pierce Bearcat 85 outboard motors Reply with quote

Has anyone seen or heard of one of these, a Bearcat 85hp outboard motor?
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boatScotty
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 8:31 am    Post subject: Fisher Pierce Bearcat 85 outboard motors Reply with quote

Here is what I know - and you are into an odd little engine Smile

85 hp model was based on the English Coventry Climax block. The 55 was based on a Crosley engine.

As you likely know, the 85HP is rare, in production for only 2 years (70-72). There are some truly low estimates on how many of these are around, a couple handfuls of them in the US. Do you have one - or are you looking for one?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coventry_Climax

http://members.aol.com/redbat01/web/page5.html

Now, I am also a vehicle wacko and like British cars (I have 4 right now). The Imp powered with the CC engine was fast and capable! Lotus made race winning cars with this engine. If you are looking for parts, I would post/look to the UK.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Coventry-Climax-Racing-Engines-Development/dp/1903706831
this book should tell you everything you need to know about the engine.

As far as marine specific information - well, they fitted the CC to forklifts as well - and there is little information for either specialty engine.
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MikeW
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:35 pm    Post subject: Bearcat Engines Reply with quote

Hello outboarder,to get a bit more information on the Bearcat Engines try the link below.
http://www.4cyclemarine.com/bearcat.html
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outboardr



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 12:17 am    Post subject: Bearcat 85 Reply with quote

Hi Mike and Scotty,
Yes, these are uncommon.
I have owned 7 of them, have just one now and am negotiating on 4 more.

I also have several of the Crosley-based 55hp Homelite and Bearcat outboards.

Love to see a pic of the Imp.
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boatScotty
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 9:49 am    Post subject: Crosley-based 55hp Homelite and Bearcat outboards. Reply with quote

You are obviously an enthusiast of those vintage engines! Good luck with your ever growing collection!

The Imps were really nothing much to look at. Their main competition was the Renault 8 (especially the Gordini conversion). I owned 3 R8's as well.

http://members.aol.com/redbat01/web/page5.html
http://www.allpar.com/cars/adopted/hillman/imp.html

There were a several other rear engine cars that were all built about the same time - including the Sunbeam. The rear engine car was already past it's hayday and was soon to be totally replaced with front engine, front wheel drive cars.

Never the less, marinized automotive race engines are not uncommon - from the performance Chrysler M45S used in the 21' Chris-Craft Cobra's to the 1953 4493.7cc, Ferrari, each cylinder with two spark plugs per cylinder, a 12:1 compression ratio and the stock engine made approximately 385bhp.

You already know how much rarer automotive engines are in vintage outboards. Other interesting marine engine uses - 'conversions' are the Maytag gas engines, often the Model 72 (I have a working one). I love old motors...had a Seagull. A British Anzani Engine would be interesting...

You likely already know of these folks as well
http://www.boat-links.com/linklists/boatlink-35.html

enough jawing for me - time to get back to work Smile
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Ed Z



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 29, 2007 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The 85's are becoming hard to find... 587 were built and many have made their way into automotive applications... I currently have two that I have completely restored... One is sitting on my 1969 Nauset and proves to be a near perfect match... I have converted a pair of Edelbrock slide valve carbs and mounted them on it... Boy what a difference in performance they make... The whaler looks like a PWC when it lanches out of the water on the hole shot... It just drops the back of the boat and jumps up on plane... It gets fantastic gas milage too (providing one doesn't run WOT all the time)... I use it for fishing mostly... It will troll for an hour on 1 quart of gas... At 650 RPM it goes only 1 MPH to... Makes for great Bass fishing...
If anyone has one and needs to find a new home for their Bearcat 85, please let me know... Very Happy
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